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June 1, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

Episode 65 : Diversity

A rambling discussion about how diversity can help us grow, and why it’s so hard to find it in our daily lives. Plus, storytime!

same shirt, same hair

Links mentioned:

  • Here is some of the fallout from our podcast entitled “Privilege.”
  • The NPR critique of the Peace Corps’s current situation.
  • A classic Mr. Rogers clip where he learns about the newest sensation, video games. Very cool except Mr. Rogers doesn’t let the kid finish out his game! What a jerk.

Books mentioned:

  • A good review of Bill Bishop’s book, The Big Sort.

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7 Comments »

  1. Posted by dan

    June 2, 2008 @ 1:09 am

    oh guys!

    funny podcast!

    this tendency of people to hang out with like minded people is an interesting phenomena. you see it in political circles especially - people signing up for green groups, political parties etc etc. i call it corporatism - that is, these groups/political parties end up turning into rigid systems, reinforce themselves by attracting like-minded people, and ultimately they don’t permit real change… and the funny thing is, these ‘liberal’ groups think they are so much different to the groups they oppose but in essence they are the same - anti-democratic lobby groups… and just the process of joining means that you sacrifice some of your individuality, and critical thinking faculties… i guess it’s a bit like joining a cult, although that’s a bit of a severe analogy.

    it reflects how sick the democratic process has become… that is, people feel they need to join these homogenous groups to be heard. if we had a real democracy, individuals would be able to use 100% of their brains, and be heard in the democratic process.

    sorry, got side-tracked there…

    I’m not sure how it works with friends… i don’t have any friends that liked John Howard (our past prime minister and George Bush wanna-be)… but my friends have quite different lifestyles - eg. my best mate is a hardcore christian…

    fighting the man,
    dan
    (10 minute commuter - heh heh - on my pushie too!)

  2. Posted by john

    June 2, 2008 @ 11:42 am

    I realise that but isn’t it also nice to mix with people with similar interests.

  3. Posted by dara

    June 2, 2008 @ 4:15 pm

    The thoughts chase thoughts attack on Gwen (Patrick got off unscathed!!) was ridiculous. Getting the facts straight means talking to everyone involved except you? If it’s any consolation, I get your message. And I “get” the delivery. And I’m not old enough to be your mamma, Gwen, but I’m a momma, and the desire to hug you until the stuffins start to pop out is sometimes overwhelming. Just offering my non-silent support.

  4. Posted by Dru

    June 2, 2008 @ 4:57 pm

    ZiS 28 - Privilege

    For my own part I was reminded of these:

    In the first video listed below ‘Love Until it Hurts’ Ken talks about the difference in the development of practice from the masculine and the feminine.

    In the second ‘Ego Is a Closed Loop’ if a young girl (who “in my view!” seems a good example of a white, middle/upper class) who’s able to afford events that a great number of us cannot, as well as the time off work and ability to get away in general.

    No argument, just what I pieced together.

    - many thanks

    Love Until it Hurts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IMxgUZJ4tA

    Ego Is a Closed Loop
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTb2kp9Y4Is
    (pay attention to what Andrew Cohen says around 11:00)

  5. Posted by anon

    June 7, 2008 @ 3:13 pm

    Sent Gwen an email but haven’t gotten a response (attachment issue alert! I keep looking for a responding email and never get one! ;)) and I am apparently not intelligent enough to find an email for either Patrick or ZIS on your sites.

    So, you guys wanted a Republican that listens to your podcast. I’m not a registered Repub or anything but I tend to vote that way and am right of center, although there are a number of issues I’m on the left. Still, I guess I’m what you said you were looking for.

    So fire away with those questions!

  6. Posted by Sarah Hoopes

    June 9, 2008 @ 1:19 pm

    I’m really enjoying your podcast. Thanks, guys!

    Best, Sarah Hoopes
    Portland, OR

  7. Posted by Meg

    June 25, 2008 @ 9:12 pm

    I have to say I am a democrat in an almost all republican school. There are 67 people in my class and only about five are democrats, my sister: two democrats. I have to say it’s kind of fun to be a democrat in school because I can debate with everybody, and it seems like the democrats know what they’re talking about, but the republicans just go with whatever without looking hard at the facts. Saying this, I’m sure there are highly educated people who do lots of research about the parties and are republicans.
    I always have a thought that comes back into my mind sometimes: “I wonder what I would be like if I was with different types of people (poor, rich, black, Latino, etc.).” In elementary school, I went to a public school that was semi-diverse. I hung out with those who weren’t as fortunate as me because I liked them the best. Then, I went to a charter school. (a public school but with a lottery that decides who gets in) It was not diverse at all. Three were blacks, and everybody had enough money to buy brand name clothing, iPods, etc. At my friends public school, there were all kinds of people: disabled, rich, Latinos, etc. I started noticing stuff that she did that I was never exposed to. She would talk and dress differently. Now that we’re going into high school, she is excited to go to her public school, but I am more nervous because I haven’t been exposed to the stuff she has. Lastly, the image I have to mid-westerners are nice, hard working people. I don’t know many mid-westerners, but I play volleyball and soccer against them and they are the nicest people. They were the first team we played that would actually help us up when we fell down. WOW!
    Meg
    Raleigh, NC

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